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What do you have Tren A 100 or Tren E 200
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I hope these are theoretical questions and you don't really have Tren on hand that you plan to use. Just from your first post to this last post tells me your clueless
and you haven't done your beginner basic research to understand what you're getting into. Bro, do your due diligence and use Google or ChatGPT to research these very basic questions and learn about what you're getting involved with. It's obvious you don't understand basic units of measurement and the importance of knowing esters and their half-lifes. This is sound basic understanding before taking your first shot. Durro asked you if you have Tren Acetate or Tren Enanthate and you answer Tren 100; that right there tells me you haven't read an ounce of any information to educate yourself. Educate yourself before you pin anything. Learn the basics so you know how to properly ask a beginner question to get an educated answer and understand what information is being conveyed to you. It's easy, start with searching esters and there half-lifes, if you can't get this basic understanding down, don't touch a single thing that has to do with AAS (Anabolic Androgen Steroids). FYI, Tren Ace 100mg is the last steroid a beginner should be using. 
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You know brother, that actually came to mind
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I wouldn’t be jumping into Tren until you have some more experience. I originally started using gear in my 20’s and stopped. I’m now 43. So much has changed in that time that I’m just taking the mindset of being a beginner again. Starting with some basic TRT stabilization then move in to short term oral introduction additional hgh eventually blast cycles with primo, NPP depending on my phase. And that’s all dependent on my labs. So each transition point gets full labs and then lab monitoring. Labs decide what I do not me. And even then I wouldn’t introduce Tren until I have a solid 2 years of successful TRT Cruise/Blast cycles.
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Totally agree, Tren is no joke. First of all, you dont even even know how to draw which means you haven't used gear before. There's no mention of Test and you want to draw 100mg right off the bat.. haha, and how many days a week? Tren Ace should be pinned every other or every day. So 350 or 700mgs a week? Two words, Good Luck, because your going to do it anyway...
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Right?!? Just asking to sky rocket BP and HCT, destroy lipids and end up in the ER
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Ok, I want to help you out assuming you're in your 50's, I'm 55, but I've been in this game for a very long time. First off, your question isn't a bad question, it's how you worded it that makes it sound like you have zero knowledge and are possibly a young punk just wanting to get on Tren because you saw a YouTube clip about the Tren Twins. I'll just get Tren out of the way, don't touch it, period. Do all the research on it that you want so your knowledgeable about it, but for the love of God, don't use it. Nobody in their 50's needs to be using Tren, unless you're competing at a very high master's level, and even then, those guys will only use it briefly coming into a show. Tren will fuck you up, I know from experience. It's been almost 10 years since I last ran Tren and I'm still trying to get my sleep back in order. Tren will throw off your circadian rhythm, deplete your melatonin levels and give you insomnia like you've never had before. It's a very strong androgen, so not only can it turn you into a mean cranky son of a bitch, but along with tanking your lipids, it will also start to harden your arteries prematurely (atherosclerosis). Not something someone in there 50's wants to have happen.
In fact, stay away from strong androgens in general, do your research and then you'll understand why. Test is always best, sometimes the best run is basic Test, ie: TRT or TRT+. I run a base of 300mg of Test year-round, 200mg to 250mg is perfect for most, but not everyone. Meaning I know guys that run 400, 500 to 600 year-round and that's their TRT+, but their bigger guys where their muscle size, body wt, can handle those doses and still keep their bloodwork in check. I'm guilty of running 500 through an entire year, but I know how to monitor myself and I get my bloodwork done on a regular basis. If you're going to add anything to your Test base, say 200mg, Masteron (Drostanolone) or Primobolan (Methenolone) are milder compounds that work well with Test. You can do a 1:1 ratio; 2:1 ratio; or 3:1 ratio of Test to either Mast or Primo. Beware though, Primo has the potential to tank your estrogen and you want to keep a healthy level of estrogen going in your body to keep homeostasis. Doing your research and learning how to read your blood panel will let you know if your estrogen levels are in a good range or not. Plus, if you start to feel like shit, it's possible your estrogen levels are low. I normally run Test to Primo as 2:1 or 3:1. Mast is a little milder, so I normally run it Test to Mast as 2:1 or 1:1 depending on the look I want at the time. If you're using an AI to modulate estrogen, you might be able to discontinue using it with adding in Mast or Primo. This is what I do, I haven't used an AI in years. AI's have their draw backs as well when it comes to keeping good health markers. When I go over 500mg of Test I will add in Mast or Primo, my body handles Test well and I don't experience the side effects a lot of guys can get. I can go up to 900+mg of Test and then I will start to see very mild water retention, but I hate holding any level of water, so I just add in Mast or Primo. I haven't done this in years, but when I went well over 1000mg (gram of gear) upwards to 2grams, then I had to add in an AI no matter what. Just not the healthiest thing to be doing, especially at our age. These days I keep it under a gram of gear. That's enough for now, I can't reiterate enough, do your research and learn all about these compounds so you make smart choices, know the pros and cons.
So, you can communicate properly learn the terms and lingo. If you're going to ask about a compound, always include the ester you plan to use with said compound, ie: Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate. Learn all about the different esters and their half-life's. I would stay away from the shorter esters, no reason to pin more when you don't have to. There's a place and time for shorter esters and I don't think you're in that situation where a short ester would be advantageous at any given time. Do you're research and you'll know if there is a time when you would want to use a shorter ester. Knowing the half-life of an ester is a basic necessity in this game, and knowing what ester is appropriate for your needs and communicating that to others when in conversation is critical for people to understand what you're asking or doing. Learn what your units of measurements represent, ie: a ml or cc does not explain how much gear you're using per week but saying I'm on 200mg of Test per week does help people to identify what you're using at the time for your cycle. Using Test as the example, you can get say Test E in vials of say 200mg/ml; 250mg/ml; or 300mg/ml. Milliliter is just a measure of volume; it says nothing about how much Test is in that milliliter but identifying that there is 200mg of Test per milliliter does say how much you're using for measuring out how much to draw into your syringe. CC and ML are the same exact unit of measure, but just about everyone uses ML to ID the volume. Most vials come in 10ml and the amount of compound per unit of ml is ID as 100mg/ml; 200mg/ml; 250mg/ml and so forth. Bottom line, communicating the mg/ml and type of ester your using is important for people to understand you.
Yes!! It absolutely is, don't be an idiot. I don't care what the other guys said in the thread, "Common Order", don't fucking do it. I've learned my lesson by losing $$$ and I know a few other guys that have lost money as well by orders going missing or never getting sent. There's no guarantee in this game. Yes, I've gotten more than one reship, but this isn't Amazon or ordering from the white market, this is a grey market leaning towards a black market. Remember what we're dealing with here. You can't go place a complaint and expect you're going to get refunded. Be smart. Over the years I've learned to start small with testing out a new sponsor, no matter what reputation or longevity that sponsor has. That sponsor could be as solid as ever, but you want to make sure that pack makes it to your front door. When I vet a new sponsor, I order at or near minimum, and I'll do this through 2 to 3 orders or more if necessary. Then I'm comfortable that most likely that pack will always make it to its destination with no problems. I learn the standard turnaround time, how that sponsor operates, how's their communication, do they create a shipping label and ship right away, or do they create the shipping label then wait a week to do a mass shipping with multiple packages. Do they do a good job at packaging, this is very important to me. I stopped using sponsors strictly on the basis their packaging of said products sucked. I've had packs arrive that were busted open because the sponsor was a cheap ass and was frugal with packing material even though they had good product. There's so many variables that can go wrong that there is no way in hell I would drop $1500 on an order with a sponsor I've never used before, no matter how many guys swore they were good to go. Vet the sponsor first you want to try out, then go big if you want. Better safe than sorry.
Cheers, Tyler
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Ok, I want to help you out assuming you're in your 50's, I'm 55, but I've been in this game for a very long time. First off, your question isn't a bad question, it's how you worded it that makes it sound like you have zero knowledge and are possibly a young punk just wanting to get on Tren because you saw a YouTube clip about the Tren Twins. I'll just get Tren out of the way, don't touch it, period. Do all the research on it that you want so your knowledgeable about it, but for the love of God, don't use it. Nobody in their 50's needs to be using Tren, unless you're competing at a very high master's level, and even then, those guys will only use it briefly coming into a show. Tren will fuck you up, I know from experience. It's been almost 10 years since I last ran Tren and I'm still trying to get my sleep back in order. Tren will throw off your circadian rhythm, deplete your melatonin levels and give you insomnia like you've never had before. It's a very strong androgen, so not only can it turn you into a mean cranky son of a bitch, but along with tanking your lipids, it will also start to harden your arteries prematurely (atherosclerosis). Not something someone in there 50's wants to have happen.
In fact, stay away from strong androgens in general, do your research and then you'll understand why. Test is always best, sometimes the best run is basic Test, ie: TRT or TRT+. I run a base of 300mg of Test year-round, 200mg to 250mg is perfect for most, but not everyone. Meaning I know guys that run 400, 500 to 600 year-round and that's their TRT+, but their bigger guys where their muscle size, body wt, can handle those doses and still keep their bloodwork in check. I'm guilty of running 500 through an entire year, but I know how to monitor myself and I get my bloodwork done on a regular basis. If you're going to add anything to your Test base, say 200mg, Masteron (Drostanolone) or Primobolan (Methenolone) are milder compounds that work well with Test. You can do a 1:1 ratio; 2:1 ratio; or 3:1 ratio of Test to either Mast or Primo. Beware though, Primo has the potential to tank your estrogen and you want to keep a healthy level of estrogen going in your body to keep homeostasis. Doing your research and learning how to read your blood panel will let you know if your estrogen levels are in a good range or not. Plus, if you start to feel like shit, it's possible your estrogen levels are low. I normally run Test to Primo as 2:1 or 3:1. Mast is a little milder, so I normally run it Test to Mast as 2:1 or 1:1 depending on the look I want at the time. If you're using an AI to modulate estrogen, you might be able to discontinue using it with adding in Mast or Primo. This is what I do, I haven't used an AI in years. AI's have their draw backs as well when it comes to keeping good health markers. When I go over 500mg of Test I will add in Mast or Primo, my body handles Test well and I don't experience the side effects a lot of guys can get. I can go up to 900+mg of Test and then I will start to see very mild water retention, but I hate holding any level of water, so I just add in Mast or Primo. I haven't done this in years, but when I went well over 1000mg (gram of gear) upwards to 2grams, then I had to add in an AI no matter what. Just not the healthiest thing to be doing, especially at our age. These days I keep it under a gram of gear. That's enough for now, I can't reiterate enough, do your research and learn all about these compounds so you make smart choices, know the pros and cons.
So, you can communicate properly learn the terms and lingo. If you're going to ask about a compound, always include the ester you plan to use with said compound, ie: Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate. Learn all about the different esters and their half-life's. I would stay away from the shorter esters, no reason to pin more when you don't have to. There's a place and time for shorter esters and I don't think you're in that situation where a short ester would be advantageous at any given time. Do you're research and you'll know if there is a time when you would want to use a shorter ester. Knowing the half-life of an ester is a basic necessity in this game, and knowing what ester is appropriate for your needs and communicating that to others when in conversation is critical for people to understand what you're asking or doing. Learn what your units of measurements represent, ie: a ml or cc does not explain how much gear you're using per week but saying I'm on 200mg of Test per week does help people to identify what you're using at the time for your cycle. Using Test as the example, you can get say Test E in vials of say 200mg/ml; 250mg/ml; or 300mg/ml. Milliliter is just a measure of volume; it says nothing about how much Test is in that milliliter but identifying that there is 200mg of Test per milliliter does say how much you're using for measuring out how much to draw into your syringe. CC and ML are the same exact unit of measure, but just about everyone uses ML to ID the volume. Most vials come in 10ml and the amount of compound per unit of ml is ID as 100mg/ml; 200mg/ml; 250mg/ml and so forth. Bottom line, communicating the mg/ml and type of ester your using is important for people to understand you.
Yes!! It absolutely is, don't be an idiot. I don't care what the other guys said in the thread, "Common Order", don't fucking do it. I've learned my lesson by losing $$$ and I know a few other guys that have lost money as well by orders going missing or never getting sent. There's no guarantee in this game. Yes, I've gotten more than one reship, but this isn't Amazon or ordering from the white market, this is a grey market leaning towards a black market. Remember what we're dealing with here. You can't go place a complaint and expect you're going to get refunded. Be smart. Over the years I've learned to start small with testing out a new sponsor, no matter what reputation or longevity that sponsor has. That sponsor could be as solid as ever, but you want to make sure that pack makes it to your front door. When I vet a new sponsor, I order at or near minimum, and I'll do this through 2 to 3 orders or more if necessary. Then I'm comfortable that most likely that pack will always make it to its destination with no problems. I learn the standard turnaround time, how that sponsor operates, how's their communication, do they create a shipping label and ship right away, or do they create the shipping label then wait a week to do a mass shipping with multiple packages. Do they do a good job at packaging, this is very important to me. I stopped using sponsors strictly on the basis their packaging of said products sucked. I've had packs arrive that were busted open because the sponsor was a cheap ass and was frugal with packing material even though they had good product. There's so many variables that can go wrong that there is no way in hell I would drop $1500 on an order with a sponsor I've never used before, no matter how many guys swore they were good to go. Vet the sponsor first you want to try out, then go big if you want. Better safe than sorry.
Cheers, Tyler
Listen and follow this man’s advice. That is by far some of the best overall advice I’ve seen so far. He knows what he’s talking about! As far as the $1500 on a first order? Absolutely not. Pick a few that others recommend, do you research and have small dollar sign test pilot orders to each. I’ve been back in the game for only 2-3 months now. In that time I’ve had small orders of $150 -250 sent to 3 sources and about to do a 4th. And the variation in just those 3 is a lot. I’m creating a 3 tier system of sources.
Tie 1 - Top 1-2 sources, best quality/service
Tier 2- Back up 2-3 sources, still quality product, shipping etc may not be the best (Use these if tier 1 sources go down or OOS)
Tier 3 - sources to only use in an emergency if can’t use Tier 1 or 2. This is like I have no option and will fuck up my cycle if I don’t order from them
It’s going to take me some time to understand and know which sources go where. Meaning I have to order a little bit from each. Once I’ve ordered and had enough experience with a source that I put them in my Tier 1 then sure I’d do a $1500 order possibly. But even then I’m probably breaking up that $1500 into multiple orders so multiple packages go out bc even though it’s unlikely I don’t want $1500 worth of gear which is gonna be a year supply minimum potentially getting lost or seized by USPS. If you are talking international that an entirely different beast. I’m only doing domestic with one source handling any bulk international order for me then he ships to me domestically.
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Yea, 1500 is ridiculous. I run 2 cycles and 2 cruise phases, Thats a whole year. Thats it. To be honest, I dont think I even spend that much for the year, if you play your cards right. I already went through the stage of testing, so I know my go to source. You have to be smart with this shit. Because there's also the over the counter shit, to assist any sides and for all bloodwork health markers. So that's going to cost. But that being said your going to the shit anyway. I know your not on trt or hgh, that's bs, because if you were , you wouldn't ask how to draw a compound that's 100mg per mL, but yet you know how to dose Test and especially Hgh, a peptide you have to mix Bac water with.