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“The young people of today have no respect for tradition and listen to terrible music.”
-Plato

Now I don’t wanna get political or anything like that but what in your opinion are young people doing wrong these days?

For me here in Japan I can’t stand it when I go to a restaurant with my wife and I will see some beautiful couple in their early 20s. Probably at the peak of their handsomeness and beauty. Yet they totally ignore one another and stare directly at their phones. I’m thinking to myself “Dude! If you won’t pay attention to that beautiful young lady, step aside, I will!”

So in your opinion, what’s going sideways with the youth of today?
 
1. Parenting has drastically declined. Now a days it seems parents want or expect teachers to teach or pass down values and etiquette that quality parenting and family values used to teach the children.

2. Social, peer, and media influences
 
Tyler Durden said:
1. Parenting has drastically declined. Now a days it seems parents want or expect teachers to teach or pass down values and etiquette that quality parenting and family values used to teach the children.

2. Social, peer, and media influences
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I totally agree. Sometimes you’ll see Kindergarten or Young elementary school age kids just acting like monkeys in a restaurant or something like that. Parents don’t even lift a finger…

Doing crazy shit online for likes? What the hell is that all about?
 
Nike said:
“The young people of today have no respect for tradition and listen to terrible music.”
-Plato

Now I don’t wanna get political or anything like that but what in your opinion are young people doing wrong these days?

For me here in Japan I can’t stand it when I go to a restaurant with my wife and I will see some beautiful couple in their early 20s. Probably at the peak of their handsomeness and beauty. Yet they totally ignore one another and stare directly at their phones. I’m thinking to myself “Dude! If you won’t pay attention to that beautiful young lady, step aside, I will!”
Tyler Durden said:
1. Parenting has drastically declined. Now a days it seems parents want or expect teachers to teach or pass down values and etiquette that quality parenting and family values used to teach the children.
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A few years back, unfortunately I can't remember....thats what happens when you get old....there was a chain restaurant that ran a promotion that when you were seated the server when they sat you would take ALL the cell phones from anyone who had them at the table. If the patrons complied with the promo they would receive one free meal at that table and their phone when leaving.

IMO this was a great promo in an effort to create conversation and interaction rather than playing on their phones.
 
Tyler Durden said:
1. Parenting has drastically declined. Now a days it seems parents want or expect teachers to teach or pass down values and etiquette that quality parenting and family values used to teach the children.

2. Social, peer, and media influences
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Parents are garbage these days. I saw a post on facebook where someone had a video showing kids ringing doorbells and kicking doors and running off in a local neighborhood at midnight. Some parents were taking up for them saying its just "kids being kids" and "it could be worse." Lazy ass parents. I cringe seeing the demise of our society and values.
 
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Parents are garbage these days. I saw a post on facebook where someone had a video showing kids ringing doorbells and kicking doors and running off in a local neighborhood at midnight. Some parents were taking up for them saying its just "kids being kids" and "it could be worse." Lazy ass parents. I cringe seeing the demise of our society and values.
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"kids being kids", this is a bullshit comment. I bet the parents that said this had parents that were trash as well. What ever happened to taking responsibility or accountability for our own actions. Passing the buck and knowing how to attain the right lawyer is the norm now a days.
 
Corporal punishment. That's your answer. Parents at one point, PUNISHED their children for acting like disrespectful primates. Now, thanks to the armchair psychologists that likely never had kids, writing books about "encouraging" their kids' diverse personalities (i.e. not accepting their roles as the children and realizing they are not equals to their parents, parents afraid that they'll be accused of "abusing" their children by revoking privileges, smacking their kid a shot when they need it), we have an entire planet of entitled, social misfits whose entire "world" is at their hand on a screen. No consequences, nothing. If I don't like you, I'll post on social that you suck, not directly address conflict. Pussy ass shit. If I had even thought about doing the kind of shit I see younger people do, I'd likely not be here talking to you, my mother would have killed me. They don't respect themselves, each other any authority. No you little shit, we're not friends, peers, or equals. Your feelings matter, your development into a good human matters. It's not abuse, it's called fucking parenting. Before you think I'm so bad, wait until some young person your age without guidance or respect beats the living hell out of you because they're not your parent. They don't care, and neither did their parents to teach them the right way to act in the the world. That's why parents kept us in line. For OUR good.
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Well......since we're ranting
.....I hate the term ....'everyone wins'......NO NO NOOOOOOO. NOT EVERYONE IS A WINNER. Great way to teach your kids ambition, drive, and intestinal fortitude.
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I'm right there with you brother. Historically the most successful people in life have said one of the best learning lessons was failure and learning from failing over and over again and growing from this to achieve the success they achieved. If you're never taught the reality of not always winning, how are you to learn to work harder or find a different approach to succeed in life.
 
01dragonslayer said:
Well......since we're ranting
.....I hate the term ....'everyone wins'......NO NO NOOOOOOO. NOT EVERYONE IS A WINNER. Great way to teach your kids ambition, drive, and intestinal fortitude.
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Dude, I am right with you. I skipped a grade in elementary school so I got bullied hard-core when I was in junior high school and the first year of high school. As a result, now I’m jacked at 230 and nobody bullies me anymore.

You grow through your pain. And what doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger.
 
Realistically, every generation has this discussion. Every single one. Your parent's generation complained about you when you were growing up and their parent's generation complained about them. The new generation will complain about the generation after them.

I read once then when we analyze and discuss history, it says more about us then about the historical people we are discussing. Perhaps complaints about the younger generations says more about our changing attitudes growing up then it says about the generation we complain about.

Aside--I generally get irritated by the articles that make fun of kids for not knowing how to do things like write in cursive as if the kids themselves gathered to take it out of the curriculum instead of their parents.
 
Nike said:
“The young people of today have no respect for tradition and listen to terrible music.”
-Plato

Now I don’t wanna get political or anything like that but what in your opinion are young people doing wrong these days?

For me here in Japan I can’t stand it when I go to a restaurant with my wife and I will see some beautiful couple in their early 20s. Probably at the peak of their handsomeness and beauty. Yet they totally ignore one another and stare directly at their phones. I’m thinking to myself “Dude! If you won’t pay attention to that beautiful young lady, step aside, I will!”

So in your opinion, what’s going sideways with the youth of today?
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Unfortunately I cannot give you a concrete answer.

You're comment on the young couple staring at their phones rather than engaging brought up a great promo that given to patrons at a chain restaurant a few years ago that I thought was a fantastic idea.

I cannot recall the restaurant but the promotion was that when you came to the restaurant to eat you would check your cell phones at the door. In return the restaurant would provide one free meal at your table and then given your phones back when leaving.

Great idea to get a family to engage in conversation.
 
It is interesting how parenting and what is permissible changed. Up until 6th grade the school sent home a slip at the beginning of each year that was a permission if needed to swat. My parents happily signed it. And I think I received one each year up until fourth grade. Our son recently did not want to eat what mom made for dinner. Well after his bedtime, he decided he was going to make him something different. The answer was no. Mom had made a healthy and nutritious dinner and he refused to eat it. As he stomped down the hall, upset he declared that this was abusive.
 
I would say letting ipads and youtube raise your kids. Its crazy the commercials you see nowadays with rupauls drag race shit and gays in hiv medication commercials. In my day, im only 37, you would never see that shit on tv. Times have changed fellas
 
Nike said:
see some beautiful couple in their early 20s. Probably at the peak of their handsomeness and beauty. Yet they totally ignore one another and stare directly at their phones. I’m thinking to myself “Dude! If you won’t pay attention to that beautiful young lady, step aside, I will!”
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It's shit parenting and social media influencing and molding their young minds instead of their parents.

As far as the phone issue.. try being over 40 (almost 50) and going to a bar to meet people. Anyone under 40 and many over that age are just scrolling their phones. They only go out to see people they know or know online and are obsessed with taking pic to post how "awesome" their fake lives are and that they are "living their best life". The same people say that they have sever anxiety and loneliness.
 
Speedbump779 said:
Realistically, every generation has this discussion. Every single one. Your parent's generation complained about you when you were growing up and their parent's generation complained about them. The new generation will complain about the generation after them.

I read once then when we analyze and discuss history, it says more about us then about the historical people we are discussing. Perhaps complaints about the younger generations says more about our changing attitudes growing up then it says about the generation we complain about.

Aside--I generally get irritated by the articles that make fun of kids for not knowing how to do things like write in cursive as if the kids themselves gathered to take it out of the curriculum instead of their parents.
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There is a difference now thanks to social media and the innovation of the iPhone.
Specification curve analysis shows that social media use is linked to poor mental health, especially among girls
This is one study from 2022 I pulled. There are far better that show the direct correlation in the exponential growth of depression and suicide rates, especially amongst teen girls after the introduction of the iPhone (in reference to social media accessibility and usage).
 
I'm 51 with an 8 and 6yr old. Their brother is 32. All boys. I was raised in an old school Italian home by a 6'5" 270lb Italian man who was close to being in his 40s when I was born. His parents were late 40s when he was raised in the home. That being said I have the old school tendencies that are typically frowned upon these days when it comes to discipline and teaching. Does it concern me? Not in the least. I am, however trying to bridge somewhat of a gap since times are different. But still ruling with an iron fist. Trying to balance the 'tough love' approach. Of course I'm biased but I'd like to think my kids are top of the line when it comes to manners and respect. My little one like to push the envelope but at the end of the day he still has the manners and can be very respectful. It's tough but I'm up for and welcome the challenge.
 
As I see it, one of the biggest problems with our society is the lack of natural selection. We are the only species where survival of the fittest doesn’t exist. Instead, we coddle, protect, and celebrate the ones that “shouldn’t have made it”.

Then the stupid fucks procreate and further taint the gene pool. Furthering the problem.

If a baby bird is dumb and jumps out of the nest. it dies. It didn’t make it. Instead, our society protects these human nestling with warning labels on car batteries that say “contains lead. Do not eat”

We nurture and coddle all the weak and allow our society to embrace it as “diversity”. It’s fucking absurd how much of a one way street diversity is and how normalized poor decisions and weakness has become.

We are doomed. I fear the days when I’m in a nursing home and need to reply upon these fucks to care for me.
 
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