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Testosterone and Shut Down of LH

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OldGuyItsMe

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I read that by using Testosterone for approximately 6 months, luteinizing hormone (LH) will shut down.

If that is true what does the loss of LH affect in men?

Is there something you should take while on TRT to counter what no LH does to males?

I read that you should supplement with pregnenolone and DHEA.

If true, what exactly do you use, when do you start supplementing, and what is the frequency and the dose?

Thank you.
 
When you add exogenous testosterone to your system your Brain will see that and stop your pituitary gland from signaling lh production. When you cease exogenous testosterone lh production is the fastest thing to restart but restarting the testies that have been sitting dormant takes the longest, so if you want to keep the testies firing so endogenous testosterone production restarts faster you can administer hcg or hmg during your cycle making recovery easier. I can tell you from experience tho I stayed on gear for 15 years straight and my hematocrit level got to high, I came off cold turkey and did no pct and I did recover within 90 days
 
☝️ I recovered fairly quick too. I had to quit cold turkey as well, courtesy of the federal government. Hell I had two more kids after that. NO pct either.
 
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I can tell you from experience tho I stayed on gear for 15 years straight and my hematocrit level got to high, I came off cold turkey and did no pct and I did recover within 90 days
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you're a really lucky guy. far not everyone is as lucky.
@OldGuyItsMe yeah, you'd need some HCG and prepare some PCT to try increasing LH
also, you should know that not everyone is as lucky as @Kubes or @puma , some may never recover the ability to naturally produce LH (and therefore testosterone). this is very individual.
 
When you first started T did there come a point where that sweet spot melted away?

I know bloodwork is critical at this point..but what usually creates feeling sluggish again, or loss of emotional happiness? Is it the shutdown of LH and the control of the hormones it is control of or, more importantly, Estrogen/Estradiol?

I'm not sure if my question is even factual. This is all new.

So, I've had numerous blood work panels going back to June 2023 and just recently, June and July of this year.

3 tests my endo refuses to order for me: a CAC, Estrogen, Psa (a couple of years ago, it was low acceptable), and cortisol. She wants to meet back in October to discuss it with my follow-up appt.

I have a urology appt in Sept. referred for possible TRT. I'm sure I'll get the same runaround as my Endo, so I'm planning to take over my health if need be.

So, if I have to, I'll get my own starting bloodwork added to my already tests in MyChart.

I learned already that restarting bloodwork is critical, as well as follow-up bloodwork.

Sorry for the long-winded post.
 
The placebo affect does eventually wear off. One thing for me is I can't rely solely on test for my happiness and well being. I have my days, up and down. Test, for ME, isn't the save all. I do have to work on my pshyce with prayer and meditation. Given my history with gang life, drug addiction and prison life I do have moments of torment. Lots of them. I have learned to accept the fact I'll deal with what I've seen and encountered over the years, the rest of my life. I've seen, done and experienced situations no human should ever endure. I know testosterone alone can't take all that away but can be an aid in my overall health and well being. Through diet, exercise, self help books and testosterone aid, and spiritual guidance, I can and do get better. Remember, mind body and soul. It's a package deal for what you're trying to achieve. I was numb and black hearted for years, it still hasn't fully gone away but gets better. The harder I work on my 'emotional happiness' the easier it gets. People don't understand that to get better as a person, as a whole they need to work on all 3 aspects...mind, body, soul.
 
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Thanks for sharing your story. I too am aware that T may not even help me but I have to try my bloodwork confirms it's low.

Yeah, I had a similar story early on, then did just the opposite once I had a daughter..behind the walls for 22 years. Worked up from CO to Special Ops Commander then Major. I pretty much lived my job with all the OT and training. PtSD for sure but that's life. Damaged for sure.

Carnivore has helped me a bunch with weight and bg numbers. I have to force myself to get up and walk and get back in the gym. Insulin killed me..I was back up to 305 after getting back down to high school weight, 245.

I know the gym and walking will clean up my bg numbers if I stay eating right.
 
The only reason I went into all that was because you mentioned "emotional happiness" and what it takes to actually achieve that. Test alone won't get you there. It can certainly help but mfers gotta dig down and get that grit out. I'm pullin for ya though. Yous my dog.
 
OldGuyItsMe said:
I have a urology appt in Sept. referred for possible TRT. I'm sure I'll get the same runaround as my Endo, so I'm planning to take over my health if need be.
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I guess you know that if you're using Testosterone, your TRT will be refused (not that it matters too much, because there are a lot of guys here who cruise).
also, why do you need to keep your LH high? are you trying to make a baby?
because if not, you basically don't need it. your emotional health has little to nothing to do with your LH
 
He better not be trying to make a baby at 60 some years old. 😂
 
pretty sure there are some youngsters with good flexibility to get the job done :LOL:
 
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pretty sure there are some youngsters with good flexibility to get the job done :LOL:
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Ahhh, I had my fun time in my 30s and 40s when I had raging hard on 24/7, and it seemed many of the women I met loved a big, confident cocky, asshole of a man. Unfortunately, I forgot I was married... my wife told me the other day that you're in the predicament you're in now due to karma...damn that cut deep now that I'm 60. I'll never be able to make amends enough probably good thing the ED bug hit me hard.
 
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So if it's close to the end why are we worried about anything? Go get an ounce of cocaine, handle of whiskey order a couple online hookers and go out with a bang. Maybe they'll suck on that limp noodle until your heart just gives out. Happy ending
 
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