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Beginner's cycle. Input and suggestions appreciated

Jstom said:
Thanks, yah I took another test July 28th and estrogen is at 60.6pg(on anavar). Nips are a little sensitive but not bad lol. So when I do run 300 wait till 4th or 5th week to do blood work.Then use a AI even knowing I'm a little high on 150? I can't wait to bump up the test lol
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Remember it’s a marathon and not a sprint. I may be inclined to suggest taking the next 4wks to use 10-12.5mg Aromasin and see if your estrogen side of sensitive nips improve. If they do then adjust and do your test bump and since you are doubling your Test dose doesn’t necessarily mean you need to double you AI dose but it’s a good possibility…maybe even going up to 15-20mg…but like previously stated bloodwork is the only way to confirm.

Real Anavar would have had no negative affect on your E2 levels so your E2 should hopefully be just from your Test dose. However Anavar is often one of the most faked compounds. My very first time getting 25mg Var it was fake and ended up being Dbol. I was trying to figure out why my BP skyrocketed and I was getting swollen ankles from water retention. A few days after I dropped the Dbol (**VAR**) I started to return to normal with the same Test dose I had been running.

Once you have been on the 300mg Test dose check bloods at the end of 4th or 5th week in. Take you time Sir. I know it’s exciting to get rolling but once you have solid base numbers everything will be easier as you progress and add new compounds.
 
Ok, thanks man, much appreciated!!! My blood pressure wasn't bad. It went up a little bit. I just started a half of a pill of my high blood pressure medication that i us to take and its fine now. I got the anavar from DYEL. The veins are definitely popping lol. I hope it would be real. But then again its my first time. Is there anything that would stick out that says its d-bol over var in the blood work? I know both crash shbg and test levels. I dont have water retention, definitely a leaner look.
 
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Jstom said:
Ok, thanks man, much appreciated!!! My blood pressure wasn't bad. It went up a little bit. I just started a half of a pill of my high blood pressure medication that i us to take and its fine now. I got the anavar from DYEL. The veins are definitely popping lol. I hope it would be real. But then again its my first time. Is there anything that would stick out that says its d-bol over var in the blood work? I know both crash shbg and test levels. I dont have water retention, definitely a leaner look.
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For bloodwork the most tell tale sign only AFTER you have a good read on your base Test only results would be an above normal elevated E2.

Only true way to tell is to send out for testing. When I was just starting I was trying to be careful but a thought I was going with the most mild oral and bam…come to find out it was actually Dbol. When I started having the crazy high BP and abnormal water retention I asked on the forum for some advice and that’s what lead me to testing it.
 
Yah I know testing would be the only sure way to know. That definitely would blow getting anavar thinking your going to look leaner and then get crazy water retention and crazy BP.🤬😤
 
KingoftheNorth14 said:
Remember it’s a marathon and not a sprint. I may be inclined to suggest taking the next 4wks to use 10-12.5mg Aromasin and see if your estrogen side of sensitive nips improve. If they do then adjust and do your test bump and since you are doubling your Test dose doesn’t necessarily mean you need to double you AI dose but it’s a good possibility…maybe even going up to 15-20mg…but like previously stated bloodwork is the only way to confirm.

Real Anavar would have had no negative affect on your E2 levels so your E2 should hopefully be just from your Test dose. However Anavar is often one of the most faked compounds. My very first time getting 25mg Var it was fake and ended up being Dbol. I was trying to figure out why my BP skyrocketed and I was getting swollen ankles from water retention. A few days after I dropped the Dbol (**VAR**) I started to return to normal with the same Test dose I had been running.

Once you have been on the 300mg Test dose check bloods at the end of 4th or 5th week in. Take you time Sir. I know it’s exciting to get rolling but once you have solid base numbers everything will be easier as you progress and add new compounds.
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So for Aromasin doses, U said 10-12.5mg. Is that eod, or once week at first? I tried looking it up and the dosing is all over the place lol
 
To start and in the absence of labs I’d say you can start at the 10-12.5mg 1X per week and see if that helps with the sensitive nips.
 
KingoftheNorth14 said:
💪🏼 You can do it either way to be honest. I’d say go straight to 300mg and if all is good you can stay there for 4/5 wk bloods and if all is well go ahead up to 400-500mg and run that thru the end then you can see where you are at with post cycle bloodwork.

Go to AI is Aromasin. Adjust dosage pending bloodwork. Good luck and stay strong Sir. And as always feel free to ask any questions you need. We are happy to help.
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So I've done my blood work after 300mg a week eod for 5 weeks. 25mg of Aromasin every fri and just went from 2 to 3iu of hgh. Blood test looks good? should I jump to 400 or 500 now for rest of my 6.5 weeks like u said lol.
 

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KingoftheNorth14 said:
Damn that’s a great response to only 150mg Test per wk! Blood look pretty good Sir. E2 is climbing but if you have zero estrogen sides then no need to get crazy with an AI. That is a dose you want to start low and slow until you dial it in. Crashing your estrogen is not ideal.
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Not sure what was in that test e my buddy gave me but it must of been way over dosed with the numbers I had lol
 
Jstom said:
So I've done my blood work after 300mg a week eod for 5 weeks. 25mg of Aromasin every fri and just went from 2 to 3iu of hgh. Blood test looks good? should I jump to 400 or 500 now for rest of my 6.5 weeks like u said lol.
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Not bad! Any cholesterol or live testing this round? If not it’s not the end of the world but I would add them to your next blood test.

I see no reason why you cannot bump your Test to 400-500mg wk. To be honest I would just keep the AI dose the same but split the tab to take 12.5mg the day after injection for a total of 25mg wk still. In this way as long as you are not getting any negative E2 sides like nipple sensitivity, puffy, or any lump forming the. I would be ok with your E2 going up a little bit. It may help with growth and potentially even improve IGF numbers and if you are bumping the GH an extra IU that should also help.

Pull bloods again after the 6.5 wks and see what your numbers are at after running the increased dose.

Stay hydrated and keep trucking along. RBC, Hemoglobin look good but Hematocrit is in the high range.



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KingoftheNorth14 said:
Not bad! Any cholesterol or live testing this round? If not it’s not the end of the world but I would add them to your next blood test.

I see no reason why you cannot bump your Test to 400-500mg wk. To be honest I would just keep the AI dose the same but split the tab to take 12.5mg the day after injection for a total of 25mg wk still. In this way as long as you are not getting any negative E2 sides like nipple sensitivity, puffy, or any lump forming the. I would be ok with your E2 going up a little bit. It may help with growth and potentially even improve IGF numbers and if you are bumping the GH an extra IU that should also help.

Pull bloods again after the 6.5 wks and see what your numbers are at after running the increased dose.

Stay hydrated and keep trucking along. RBC, Hemoglobin look good but Hematocrit is in the high range.



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Ok cool. Not bad! I expect to see some number off or borderline while on cycle. Clean diet, high fiber, proper hydration is key. Organ support supplementation I run with any cycle and I even run a half dose while on trt. Then there are some cholesterol support supps but that is optional. Diet and cardio are the most important.




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KingoftheNorth14 said:
Ok cool. Not bad! I expect to see some number off or borderline while on cycle. Clean diet, high fiber, proper hydration is key. Organ support supplementation I run with any cycle and I even run a half dose while on trt. Then there are some cholesterol support supps but that is optional. Diet and cardio are the most important.




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I do 500mg of tudca twice a day, 500mg of citrus bergamot twice a day. And 600mg of Nac a day. 700mg of Psyllium husk after every meal. Besides my other supplements. Diet is on point, weighting my food. Bumped up the calories to 3100.
 

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