Beginner's cycle. Input and suggestions appreciated

[jmarshall2]

 

[jmarshall2]

Is that a good ratio

 

[Jstom]

How do u feel? Have u done any blood work yet?

 

[jmarshall2]

How do u feel? Have u done any blood work yet?

I feel great but I'm just on maintenance test right now. Taking 50mg test c 3x a week. Going in for bloodwork in a few weeks. I haven't started that cycle yet. Was just curious what other guys thought about the dosing. I know I need to see what works for me because everyone is different

 

[Skud008]

I feel great but I'm just on maintenance test right now. Taking 50mg test c 3x a week. Going in for bloodwork in a few weeks. I haven't started that cycle yet. Was just curious what other guys thought about the dosing. I know I need to see what works for me because everyone is different

It looks reasonable on paper but it's so highly dependent on the individual and how you aromatize and react to certain compounds. Best you can do is start, see how you feel, keep a close eye on your bloodwork, and adjust from there. I'm gonna assume your diet, training, and sleep are pretty dialed already?

 

[Jstom]

I feel great but I'm just on maintenance test right now. Taking 50mg test c 3x a week. Going in for bloodwork in a few weeks. I haven't started that cycle yet. Was just curious what other guys thought about the dosing. I know I need to see what works for me because everyone is different

Nice, yah I'm doing the same, 150 a week. And I got 5 weeks of anavar in. 12.5mg every 8 to 10 hours. 1 or 2 weeks left. Doing a cut to get my bmi down, then a break, Then I was going to do a similar cycle. But adding a little Npp in for joints. That's why I was asking. Skud008 is right about dialing diet, train and sleep. That's what I been doing. Very important. Lmk how it goes if u do it.

 

[KingoftheNorth14]

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Personally my recommendation is Test only for the first cycle or 2. That’s the base of all cycles so it’s good to know what Test alone does for you and how it affects your body and bloodwork. From there usually add in 1 compound at a time so you again know how your body and bloodwork reacts to the gear.

Now the overall dose of Test & Primo is very moderate and the chosen compounds are very mild also. Remember this game is a marathon, not a sprint. Take your time.

I also would rather run straight HGH rather than the secretagogues. It’s cheaper and does what you are ultimately looking for. Now if you are young enough then ok but if over 35 just use HGH.

Please feel free to ask any and all the questions you want. Good luck and be safe!

 

[Jstom]

Yah i just ordered a hgh 24iu kit from Claire from TM-peptide. Im 51 and ran cjc-ipamorelin for 12 weeks and tesamorelin for 12 weeks and didn't do much that I noticed. I guess I slept good on cjc-ipa lol

 

[KingoftheNorth14]

Yes Sir, at your age HGH is the only one I would use really use. It gets better over time. Start at just 2IU every night before bed. I’ve been using GH for a few years at mostly just 2IU every night. When on cycle I’ll go to 4-8IU.

 

[jmarshall2]

It looks reasonable on paper but it's so highly dependent on the individual and how you aromatize and react to certain compounds. Best you can do is start, see how you feel, keep a close eye on your bloodwork, and adjust from there. I'm gonna assume your diet, training, and sleep are pretty dialed already?

Thanks man. Yes everything else is dialed in pretty well. I will need to increase protein when I start it but other than that it's pretty good.

 

[Hammer & Bell]

1st cycle, AFTER pre-cycle bloodwork - should be test only, with A.I. starting week 4/5... and only after mid and post cycle bloodwork and assessment, should other compounds be added.
Find your base, determine your response to test and a.i. first, over a minimum of 8-12 weeks, THEN consider adding other compounds.

Not "exciting" as a multiple compound protocol, but the best approach. You only get one 1st cycle, do it properly, then you can expand with your base responses established and documented.

 

[Jstom]

1st cycle, AFTER pre-cycle bloodwork - should be test only, with A.I. starting week 4/5... and only after mid and post cycle bloodwork and assessment, should other compounds be added.
Find your base, determine your response to test and a.i. first, over a minimum of 8-12 weeks, THEN consider adding other compounds.

Not "exciting" as a multiple compound protocol, but the best approach. You only get one 1st cycle, do it properly, then you can expand with your base responses established and documented.

Well I think I'm going to change my next cycle to test only lol. Hammer and King know best and I appreciate the help, i really do. So if I'm doing 64mg every 3 days(150week). Would you guys just jump to 300 or 400 right away or titrate up? Say 50mg at a time? Thanks guys p.s. what do you guys prefer for a AI.

 

[KingoftheNorth14]

Well I think I'm going to change my next cycle to test only lol. Hammer and King know best and I appreciate the help, i really do. So if I'm doing 64mg every 3 days(150week). Would you guys just jump to 300 or 400 right away or titrate up? Say 50mg at a time? Thanks guys p.s. what do you guys prefer for a AI.

You can do it either way to be honest. I’d say go straight to 300mg and if all is good you can stay there for 4/5 wk bloods and if all is well go ahead up to 400-500mg and run that thru the end then you can see where you are at with post cycle bloodwork.

Go to AI is Aromasin. Adjust dosage pending bloodwork. Good luck and stay strong Sir. And as always feel free to ask any questions you need. We are happy to help.

 

[Jstom]

You can do it either way to be honest. I’d say go straight to 300mg and if all is good you can stay there for 4/5 wk bloods and if all is well go ahead up to 400-500mg and run that thru the end then you can see where you are at with post cycle bloodwork.

Go to AI is Aromasin. Adjust dosage pending bloodwork. Good luck and stay strong Sir. And as always feel free to ask any questions you need. We are happy to help

Thanks again, ill try that out.

 

[Hammer & Bell]

Well I think I'm going to change my next cycle to test only lol. Hammer and King know best and I appreciate the help, i really do. So if I'm doing 64mg every 3 days(150week). Would you guys just jump to 300 or 400 right away or titrate up? Say 50mg at a time? Thanks guys p.s. what do you guys prefer for a AI.

Aromasin by far is the best A.I. (aside from emergency estro management).
Aromasin is has far less side effects than arimidex or nolvadex, which can over time, degrade bone density among other negatives.
Aromsin does not eliminate estrogen, it prevents test from converting in the 1st place. It also boosts Free-Test, which is responsible for the anabolic effects.

We are happy to help you put together the best protocol, a few queations:

What type of test are you using?

Do you have pre-cycle/trt bloodwork we can review for you?

 

[Jstom]

Aromasin by far is the best A.I. (aside from emergency estro management).
Aromasin is has far less side effects than arimidex or nolvadex, which can over time, degrade bone density among other negatives.
Aromsin does not eliminate estrogen, it prevents test from converting in the 1st place. It also boosts Free-Test, which is responsible for the anabolic effects.

We are happy to help you put together the best protocol, a few queations:

What type of test are you using?

Do you have pre-cycle/trt bloodwork we can review for you?

Right now I'm finishing up some test E(150week), but switching to test C. This blood work is from June 29th before taking anavar. Im going to get better labs done before my test only cycle. I want get my igf tested before I start hgh also. Thanks for your help

 

[FatBuddah]

King has always been spot on when he interjects.

 

[jmarshall2]

1st cycle, AFTER pre-cycle bloodwork - should be test only, with A.I. starting week 4/5... and only after mid and post cycle bloodwork and assessment, should other compounds be added.
Find your base, determine your response to test and a.i. first, over a minimum of 8-12 weeks, THEN consider adding other compounds.

Not "exciting" as a multiple compound protocol, but the best approach. You only get one 1st cycle, do it properly, then you can expand with your base responses established and documented.

Great information. I really appreciate the honest input