Cholesterol when to stop a blast on orals? ⚙️

[Tairy_Hesticles]

What is considered low or high HDL/LDL cholesterol on a blast with test and orals?

How do you know objectively when to stop a blast based on cholesterol? Is there a number?

For how long can you handle out of range numbers?

 

[BlakeCo180]

I don't think there's some magic number where everyone should stop. Probably best to discuss it with your doctor and keep an eye on the overall trend. When I got my bloodwork done my LDL was 157 and HDL was 21, and my doctor's advice was to come off and let things recover

 

[KingoftheNorth14]

Yall need to understand that while using these drugs in a blast all of our numbers are going to go out of range. It’s important to watch them but I don’t get overly concerned with cholesterol values on blast while using orals. Orals fuck up my cholesterol values every single time. I honestly over the years have backed off use of orals to keep my cholesterol values in better check but the injectables still fuck them up too.
What’s important is that after your cycle make sure you conduct a health phase for as long as it needs to be till you get everything back in check. I have also noticed that I can impact my cholesterol values be going on an all white meat diet. Now yes I eat other foods but my meat is all white meat, and egg whites, with about 12-18 whole eggs a wk. High fiber and good hydration will help also with clearing food and toxins.

 

[Tairy_Hesticles]

I don't think there's some magic number where everyone should stop. Probably best to discuss it with your doctor and keep an eye on the overall trend. When I got my bloodwork done my LDL was 157 and HDL was 21, and my doctor's advice was to come off and let things recover

I heard its not always best to be open with your doctor on a blast because they can disqualify you from insurance when they submit notes on your visits etc.

 

[Tairy_Hesticles]

Yall need to understand that while using these drugs in a blast all of our numbers are going to go out of range. It’s important to watch them but I don’t get overly concerned with cholesterol values on blast while using orals. Orals fuck up my cholesterol values every single time. I honestly over the years have backed off use of orals to keep my cholesterol values in better check but the injectables still fuck them up too.
What’s important is that after your cycle make sure you conduct a health phase for as long as it needs to be till you get everything back in check. I have also noticed that I can impact my cholesterol values be going on an all white meat diet. Now yes I eat other foods but my meat is all white meat, and egg whites, with about 12-18 whole eggs a wk. High fiber and good hydration will help also with clearing food and toxins.

Thanks for the insights good to learn from the OGs. Yeah I heard that as well best to get all markers in the green before the next blast. Was just trying to come at it from a more "scientific" approach if you know what I mean.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Yall need to understand that while using these drugs in a blast all of our numbers are going to go out of range. It’s important to watch them but I don’t get overly concerned with cholesterol values on blast while using orals. I honestly over the years have backed off use of orals to keep my cholesterol values in better check but the injectables still fuck them up too.
What’s important is that after your cycle make sure you conduct a health phase for as long as it needs to be till you get everything back in check.

I swore off orals years ago, at my age and the fact I don't compete I just don't need to use orals. But yeah, high dose runs will skew your health markers and I think it's a great idea to bring them back into range after a heavy run of compounds by conducting a health phase that runs long enough to make sure everything returns to normal. Then run a period of in normal range blood markers before going higher doses again.

Over the years I've definitely changed my approach to using PEDS in a more common sense way. I titrate doses up and down at a slower rate where before I would just go straight to high doses and come off or cruise cold turkey negating a slower transition making it harder on the body. This last health phase I was completely off for 6 months before just recently going back on and I've been slowly adding compounds back in at lower starting doses.

 

[Tairy_Hesticles]

I swore off orals years ago, at my age and the fact I don't compete I just don't need to use orals. But yeah, high dose runs will skew your health markers and I think it's a great idea to bring them back into range after a heavy run of compounds by conducting a health phase that runs long enough to make sure everything returns to normal. Then run a period of in normal range blood markers before going higher doses again.

Over the years I've definitely changed my approach to using PEDS in a more common sense way. I titrate doses up and down at a slower rate where before I would just go straight to high doses and come off or cruise cold turkey negating a slower transition making it harder on the body. This last health phase I was completely off for 6 months before just recently going back on and I've been slowly adding compounds back in at lower starting doses.

I like that approach to titrate up. Do you typically start at dose x (lower dose) for 2-4 weeks then increase dose after looking at bloods? Or do you titrate up week by week staying aware of side effects before increasing?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Every 2-3 weeks I'll titrate up staying aware of sides. Once I hit a good total in dosage I'll stay there for a while till things get stale, then I'll titrate up again or come down, depending on how long I've been on and how I feel. A typical run for me is a year to a year and a half. I try to not stay on for longer than two years without a good break in there somewhere. Coming down for me can be hasty, I've been on long enough I just want off. I never have issues with sides; I'm just one of those guys that tolerate PEDS well. I can go straight to high doses and come off cold turkey with no issues, but I know this approach can be hard on the body. So, I'm being more sensible now a days. I can come off with or without PCT with no issues, but I do play it smart and do a PCT anyways. I used to do bloods a lot, but I've been able to sync how I feel while correlating this with doing bloods. So, I don't always do bloods now a days, but I'm getting older so I will have to start doing bloods more often again. I'm getting wiser in my older years.