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Lily Has Failed To Deliver 3 Packages or Give a Full Refund

Just an update:
As most of you know we all received a message saying Lily's VPN is back on there was a glimmer of hope.

I immediately messaged her to resolve the three orders that I put in including one that now the charge has been reversed on my pay app and the money has been taken out of my own account meaning out of my own wallet .

There was no response then I sent another message knowing that today is Monday in China and they are back to work.

Again, NO RESPONSE!

So if this is the type of person you want to work with with horrible customer service, not replying tO messages not resolving package issues, order issues money returns then by all means keep ordering with her.

One thing I've learned in this business is have more than two reliable sources and I'm very happy that my other source has been awesome with shipping, customer service even answering questions on days off late at night etc etc.
 
She's not responding to me either, but you obviously have your issues and dont blame but again I speak for myself, zero issues since last September. And I know im not alone just like your not alone. So the question is why? Why leave certain people in the dark and at the same time be loyal with other customers such as myself?
 
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Brother what I'm more pissed off about is the one guy with the large peptide order that was confiscated He's upset but he knows it wasn't my fault My other buddy that never got his MOTSC since December in the refund she promised He kind of already said he doesn't expect it

I'm pissed off about Lily is because of her inability to take care of her customers I'm now out of $225 out of my own pocket because of dispute on my pay app trying to help people And she never shipped the order.

All right I got to finish my workout before my wife gets up later
 
I’m having the same issue, I put in a order 3-15 and she does not respond to me at all anymore
 
Yea, she's not checking telegram either. Other than the weekends, she would be on there everyday. Thats the first for me. She's been on there and responded every single time. Her last message was April 18th about her network being restricted. That was around 11:03am. Haven't heard anything since. If she responds, ill let you guys know. Hopefully you get a respond also but doesn't sound like you will. And like I said, I hope you guys get answers
 
I have been sending messages via WhatsApp for a few days now….not that I am such a longstanding member to compare, but since onset of joining SF, and the international game Lily has been always on point and rapid in response save that week she was “hacked”. Anyone hear from her in say the past few days?
 
FatBuddah said:
I have been sending messages via WhatsApp for a few days now….not that I am such a longstanding member to compare, but since onset of joining SF, and the international game Lily has been always on point and rapid in response save that week she was “hacked”. Anyone hear from her in say the past few days?
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Not just lily kjf. Tjk reps also went mia. Possibility something big happen to ugl in china.
 
dat said:
Not just lily kjf. Tjk reps also went mia. Possibility something big happen to ugl in china.
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What?！
I’ve always been here.
Our packages are still being shipped out normally, and I reply to all emails and messages on time.
I don’t understand what you mean by saying I went missing.
 
jane.baker2023 said:
What?！
I’ve always been here.
Our packages are still being shipped out normally, and I reply to all emails and messages on time.
I don’t understand what you mean by saying I went missing.
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Jane is the only one standing. Shes responds back and gives updates on threads. I think something happened with lily. No telegram, no email response.I haven't seen updates from the newer sponsors either.
 
jane.baker2023 said:
What?！
I’ve always been here.
Our packages are still being shipped out normally, and I reply to all emails and messages on time.
I don’t understand what you mean by saying I went missing.
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No you don’t because I’m still owed a lot of var from you over a year ago for selling me 25mg and when I got it tested they were 20mg I’m still waiting for the left overs on that. You choose to pick who you right back too and please don’t go on here saying you did not because I have all the screenshots of emails either owing me 700 ct of var because that’s how much you under dosed. Guys watch out with there gear send it in for testing
 
acmilan1307 said:
No you don’t because I’m still owed a lot of var from you over a year ago for selling me 25mg and when I got it tested they were 20mg I’m still waiting for the left overs on that. You choose to pick who you right back too and please don’t go on here saying you did not because I have all the screenshots of emails either owing me 700 ct of var because that’s how much you under dosed. Guys watch out with there gear send it in for testing
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My friend, we have already discussed this matter and replied to you countless emails.

You can check the SF forum thread titled Lots of Tablets Arrived dated July 21, 2025 for the specific details.
 
jane.baker2023 said:
My friend, we have already discussed this matter and replied to you countless emails.

You can check the SF forum thread titled Lots of Tablets Arrived dated July 21, 2025 for the specific details.
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I just read the above mentioned forum thread and as a result clicked "ignore" on acmilan1307.
 
I got hosed. But Indont trust any of these people. I just realizes it's the game we play. But at the same time you hope integrity and character isnt jist one sided.
I also believe and know karma finds all of us. At some point it comes for all of us. So I wish nobody ill will. But stealing money is near bottomfeeders level.
 
Update nothing has changed!
It's been several days since Lily sent that VPN message issue stating she was now back to normal message to us all.

I've sent Lily messages on Telegram WhatsApp Signal including email. Lily has still not replied to any of my messages .

As I said she screwed over three of my customers including myself now. Powerlifter up above was the first to get screwed over by missing one of the peptides that he ordered and it went on for months It should have been replaced then it finally came to April 15th the full refund and that came and went.

At this point I would hope that the admin would take quick action on the company in the sponsor and identified that they're pretty much have robbed quite a few of us .

Anyone thinking you're different than many of us because of past practices with her like I had a great working relationship More than likely you will get scammed too?

Finally if you go to her website of the peptide company you see it's locked down now You cannot access there website You need to have a password. That tells me that they are now having serious issues and more than likely she's been part of an exit scam.
 
AgeisJustaNumber said:
Update nothing has changed!
It's been several days since Lily sent that VPN message issue stating she was now back to normal message to us all.

I've sent Lily messages on Telegram WhatsApp Signal including email. Lily has still not replied to any of my messages .

As I said she screwed over three of my customers including myself now. Powerlifter up above was the first to get screwed over by missing one of the peptides that he ordered and it went on for months It should have been replaced then it finally came to April 15th the full refund and that came and went.

At this point I would hope that the admin would take quick action on the company in the sponsor and identified that they're pretty much have robbed quite a few of us .

Anyone thinking you're different than many of us because of past practices with her like I had a great working relationship More than likely you will get scammed too?

Finally if you go to her website of the peptide company you see it's locked down now You cannot access there website You need to have a password. That tells me that they are now having serious issues and more than likely she's been part of an exit scam.
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Most likely she's done dude.
 
The only one communicating is Jane and Rita from TJK. For what its worth, they've never let me down.
 
This situation going on does resemble the recent trend in scams, and it very well could be a scam by some very seasoned scammers. But here's a different perspective on the situation. All of you are ordering directly from a Communist country. A country where but a year and a half ago the gov't created the biggest shortage of raws and finished product we've every seen in this community world wide.

Everything is speculation right now, nobody knows what's really happened and what's currently going on over there creating the potential illusion of being scammed. Lily can be sitting in a prison for life right now. And by the way, there's a strong chance Lily is a man. You guys are taking these Chinese direct sponsors as ethically minded on the up and up. What better way to draw customers in than present a meek, none threatening female as the front person to an underground business.

I've been in your shoes, I've lost funds to sponsors going ghost. In fact 20 some years ago the very first source I ever tried ghosted me and some other customers. I learned most of the time there's nothing I can do about the loss other than suck it up and move on. Durro is working behind the scenes for everyone's welfare. Give it time, he may come back with a win, but if he doesn't all the crying and ranting in the world isn't going to return your funds. Let it go, move on, I had to learn this lesson. This isn't Amazon, remind yourself of what kind of business you're dabbling in.

Cheers, Tyler
 
Blah blah blah.. this isn't Amazon 😋

Good point sir.

Im 0-3 with these CN sponsors. Its like gambling. This is happening everywhere.
I always make small orders because you never know what the outcome will be.
 
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Myvirtue said:
Im 0-3 with these sponsors. Its like gambling. I always make small orders because you never know what the outcome will be.
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So right, I do the exact same thing after getting scammed a couple of times in the past. I don't understand why more guys don't approach these sponsors like this, it's your personal responsibility to vet these sponsors. I vet every new sponsor to me, no matter what there reputation may be, no matter what their fan club says, no matter what tier of OG level they are. Customer service is priority for me and I pay attention to ever little detail with how my experience is with a new source. I know, this isn't a fail safe recipe to keep from getting scammed, but it goes a long way.

We're working with a gray industry here. You know up front the risk and potential downfalls with what can happen. You can take all the precautions in the world and still get scammed. I haven't been scammed in years, but I've learned how not to get scammed by being scammed and paying attention to the vets and their wisdom and knowledge because they were scammed at some point as well.

I do the same, place minimum orders in the beginning till I can feel comfortable with a particular sponsor. I'll do a minimum of 3 to 4 small orders till I'm comfortable going bigger. Once I secure a quality source I hold on for dear life. I've dumped sponsors because of poor customer service including packaging quality and security. I never do large orders, I mean LARGE orders. That's living on the edge in my opinion. I take care of myself, I never buy for others, I never fall into being a reseller. There's not enough profit to risk benefit to resell. I stay a small fish in the bigger pond, I keep myself high hanging fruit. If you decide to venture into the realm of selling to others, needing to place big orders, that's on you, you have to accept the bad with the good.
 
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