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Im doing tren E next week and im just wondering what dosage u should start with and if doing 20MG for my first week is fine since Im leaning towards micro dosing it, also scared of ED would HCG help or how bad is the ED on tren if that is a common side
 
Im doing tren E next week and im just wondering what dosage u should start with and if doing 20MG for my first week is fine since Im leaning towards micro dosing it, also scared of ED would HCG help or how bad is the ED on tren if that is a common side
Is 20mg/week what you're referring to? Or 20mg micro dosed every day? Micro dosing Tren at 20mg/day (140mg/wk) is very respectable and what I would do starting out. Start low and build up with doses, especially with Tren E, don't rush it. 100mg- 200mg is a respectable starting weekly dose of Tren, the lower the better if you're new to it. Tren will come out of nowhere and throw you to the ground and kick the shit out of you till you're done with it, this happens about 3-4 weeks in. But for those first 3 weeks Tren will behave like it's your best friend and you will fall in love with it, until it turns on you. Believe me, I know from experience. Tren is a reincarnation of Lucifer in an oil base to be shot right up the ass. Oh, believe it, in rare cases Tren has been known to cause hemorrhoids because it hyper stimulates the nervous system, specifically CNS, and there's a shit ton of nerve endings in your butthole. This is the primary reason for "Tren insomnia".

Oh, sorry man, don't let me scare you away from Tren, you may need to find out for yourself 😉. I'm actually not joking even though I'm having fun with this. Tren IS that one compound where people need to take the sides seriously and be cautious with its use if they're new to it. The most common complaints about Tren sides are real and most experience them, but this doesn't necessarily mean you will and if you play it safe and use Tren with common sense you can mitigate a good part of the sides. Reasonable doses will help out a lot with keeping some of the more serious sides at bay and you'll get all the benefits that Tren provides. Without being an irritable asshole that just wants to kick the living shit out of everything because Tren is kicking your ass.

Some guys do get ED issues from Tren because it's in the 19-nor family, ie: "Deca Dick". The ED issues usually don't pop up till you're well into the cycle, but this doesn't happen with everyone. HCG can help, in my later years now, HCG is one of my foundational compounds. Even though I don't use Tren anymore, HCG has become a mandatory part of my HRT regimen. I experienced the complete opposite with Tren, I was a sex demon 😈 on Tren, for years. I literally could not get enough and was known for going all weekend. Fortunately this was during my player years. Believe me, I had testimonials from multiple women on dating sites for adults. Tren and I had a real love hate relationship and together we had a plethora of bed post notches and trophies to be proud of. But in the end Tren won, it took me over ten years with no Tren use to restore my sleep. Give Tren the respect it deserves, or it will let you know it wants its respect.

Side note: Tren depletes melatonin and GABA in the brain. It's helpful to use a sleep aid with at least these two supplements at higher doses. I doubt you'll need it, but it's good to have Novadex (Tamoxifen) and Cabergoline or Pramipexole on hand for the known sides Tren can produce. Nova is your first line of defense, just by keeping your estradiol in check can prevent prolactin flare ups causing pre to potential gynaecomastia issues. But you have to catch the red flags right away for Nova to prevent the beginning signs of gyno. As soon as you notice any side kicking in start the Novadex. If Novadex isn't reversing the initial signs of gyno coming on, Caber is the go to to specifically bring prolactin levels back in check. If Caber isn't stopping the progression of gyno, at this point I would get the hell off Tren ASAP and never touch it again, it's not worth it.
 
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Do you think CJC and IPA which is what I’m already doing twice a day can help with the sleep aspect of it idk if semax could help with the mood as well I was thinking it cuz I’m terrified cuz I do blue collar and I feel like I’m gonna get mad at anything, you said 100 starting dose is good but honestly might do 80-90 the first week I’m just terrified of not being able to sleep and shit and being in a shitty ass mood, I’m excited to do it but idk I’m just considering the max I’ll do 200mg a week for now and just slowly build it up from 80-100mg to that point but idk I’m fairly young 19 so I do wanna take a bit more before I age and it becomes more dangerous but I’ll see but if CJC and ipa no dac won’t help much with the sleep part of it then I’ll def try buying some stronger shit for sleep and HCG while I’m at it so my girl doesn’t fucking kill me
 
Do you think CJC and IPA which is what I’m already doing twice a day can help with the sleep aspect of it idk if semax could help with the mood as well I was thinking it cuz I’m terrified cuz I do blue collar and I feel like I’m gonna get mad at anything, you said 100 starting dose is good but honestly might do 80-90 the first week I’m just terrified of not being able to sleep and shit and being in a shitty ass mood, I’m excited to do it but idk I’m just considering the max I’ll do 200mg a week for now and just slowly build it up from 80-100mg to that point but idk I’m fairly young 19 so I do wanna take a bit more before I age and it becomes more dangerous but I’ll see but if CJC and ipa no dac won’t help much with the sleep part of it then I’ll def try buying some stronger shit for sleep and HCG while I’m at it so my girl doesn’t fucking kill me

You can run DSIP for to help with the sleep issues.
 
The CJC & IPA can only help, but can't say for sure until you get 2-3 weeks in, then you'll know. Tren insomnia is very obvious, at least with me. I say it's a soft 50/50 for cjc and ipa to truly combat the insomnia, might help, but you won't know till you get into it. You're dosing thoughts are smart and logical, stick to your plan, small incremental jump up in dosing one at a time, small titrations in mg of Tren goes a long way. You're young enough, I'd be surprised if you need the HCG, definitely have Nova and Caber on hand. I would lean more towards the fact that Tren will make you constantly craving sex and never be satisfied. Your girlfriend may even ask you to never come off, but you can get to a point where you can wear them out as well. If Tren ramps up your sex drive like it does for me, not only are you in for a ride, but your girlfriend is as well. To this day, Hands down, Tren gives me the biggest libido boost I've ever had, and I pretty much have tried everything.
 
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You can run DSIP for to help with the sleep issues.
Absolutely, you're right Creep, its worth a shot, I would say to make sure to start it early or at the very beginning. I tried DSIP for my severe sleep issues from Tren and it did nothing for me. But I could have been to far gone at that point for DSIP to do anything for me. I feel a good combo to use would be DSIP during and then right after ending Tren, run Epitalon for about 8 weeks to reset your body's natural circadian rhythm and replenish the lost melatonin levels in your brain from the Tren. Wish I had known about the value of these two peptides for sleep quality way back when.
 
Have you considered Tren a for first go around? If the sides are to much you can stop and it will be out your system sooner.
On e if you do decide to stop it will take longer so you have to ride that train from hell till it’s out.
I can’t do Tren ! I tried a few times and it always gets me in trouble and a really bad headspace. I become a danger to myself , cops get involved, nearly divorced, kids hate being around me, sex addict, suicidal, relapse and more! No kidding!
 
Can’t beat a Tren , test base blend! Sprinkle 10 mg Little cialis in there and wow! Animal in the gym and leave the wife in a puddle twitching and quiefing later on while I get up to make a snack
 
Yeah, that's pretty funny. I don't know why more guys don't use Tren for the bedroom. Hands down the best libido booster I've ever used. Throw in some Viagra or Cialis and you're a sex demon for the weekend. :devilish:
 
Just to throw my 2 cents in.. I just started with 10 mg a day Tren ace along with 60/30 test c/eq daily injection and it's fucking awesome!! No sleep issues at all but definitely get the benefits. Energy through the roof for my 5 am gym sessions and crazy sex drive, but I hit a little weed after work and by the time dinner is over I'm in full Zen mode and passed out by 8:30pm.
 
Just to throw my 2 cents in.. I just started with 10 mg a day Tren ace along with 60/30 test c/eq daily injection and it's fucking awesome!! No sleep issues at all but definitely get the benefits. Energy through the roof for my 5 am gym sessions and crazy sex drive, but I hit a little weed after work and by the time dinner is over I'm in full Zen mode and passed out by 8:30pm.
Very sensible approach. I like your ratios between the 3 compounds. Plus, I like the combo of Test, EQ, Tren. I'm sure you know why your running these three together and the ratio of mg you have them in, but for those unfamiliar, Test is his base with the highest mg's out of the 3, EQ is the E2 equalizer, and a sprinkle of Tren gives the benefits without the sides.

How many weeks are you in with the Tren A? Please, keep us updated with your progress and if any sides creep in, especially weeks 4, 6 and 8. How long do you plan to run this protocol?
 
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Very sensible approach. I like your ratios between the 3 compounds. Plus, I like the combo of Test, EQ, Tren. I'm sure you know why your running these three together and the ratio of mg you have them in, but for those unfamiliar, Test is his base with the highest mg's out of the 3, EQ is the E2 equalizer, and a sprinkle of Tren gives the benefits without the sides.

How many weeks are you in with the Tren A? Please, keep us updated with your progress and if any sides creep in, especially weeks 4, 6 and 8. How long do you plan to run this protocol?
I have ran this cycle for 10 weeks before with almost no sides other that a sprinkling of bacne. That being said, I am one of the lucky ones that doesn't get hit hard with a lot of the common sides. I'm currently in week 4 and will probably keep the Tren in for another 4 weeks if everything looks good. I do a comprehensive panel at the 6 week mark just to ensure everything is going smooth. For anyone interested I use the DJs Male Androgen User Panel from M&M Labs, not cheap but completely worth it if you want to keep track of your organs.
 
Can’t beat a Tren , test base blend! Sprinkle 10 mg Little cialis in there and wow! Animal in the gym and leave the wife in a puddle twitching and quiefing later on while I get up to make a snack
Agreed, a quick spike of Test and Tren for a boost in the gym or in the bedroom with your favorite girl can't be beat, nothing compares. I do throw liquid Cheque Drops into the mix, but still, hands down if I had to pick one and one only it's definitely Tren base, Tren A does work, but even Tren A will give some lingering sides to deal with. Base is in and out of the system with no lingering sides 👍
 
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I have ran this cycle for 10 weeks before with almost no sides other that a sprinkling of bacne. That being said, I am one of the lucky ones that doesn't get hit hard with a lot of the common sides. I'm currently in week 4 and will probably keep the Tren in for another 4 weeks if everything looks good. I do a comprehensive panel at the 6 week mark just to ensure everything is going smooth. For anyone interested I use the DJs Male Androgen User Panel from M&M Labs, not cheap but completely worth it if you want to keep track of your organs.
Love it, you're a smart man. I hope you stick around to contribute to the board, we can use more contributing members who know what they're talking about.
Cheers 🍻
 
Love it, you're a smart man. I hope you stick around to contribute to the board, we can use more contributing members who know what they're talking about.
Cheers 🍻
Dude, That means a lot coming from you and I'm happy to share more! Learning to pick up the good knowledge and avoid the bad advice is the key for anyone that wants to do this for any extended period of time and not destroy your health in the process. I thank everyone on these boards that actively try to teach the correct methods!!
 
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